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Erthÿgl Glaslÿn ar gyfenwau Cymreig
Article by Glaslÿn on Welsh Surnames
 

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Translation of an article in the Welsh-language magazine 'Y Geninen' from a century ago (so far only a couple of extracts)

The Welsh text is followed by an English translation

Observations on the Welsh text:

 1 Some spellings are no longer in use - after each example of archaic spelling we have placed the modern form in square brackets

 2 The letter 'y' is ambiguous. In some cases, it is to be pronounced as a schwa - that is, the vowel in the first syllable of English 'about', 'connect', etc. In others it is pronounced as an 'i' (as in English 'bit', mint', etc). (This is in South Wales; in the North it is an 'i' sound unlike the English sound and the South Wales pronunciation). For ease of reading the Welsh version we have used 'ÿ' where the letter 'y' is to be pronounced like an 'i'. This is not in the original text; nor is it used in modern Welsh.

 3 Now and then there are commentaries also in square brackets in the text, or footnotes in square berackets, if what is said in the article needs to be explained further.

Darnau o'r erthÿgl CYFENWAU CYMREIG gan T.E Morris (Morus Glaslÿn)

Extracts from the article WELSH SURNAMES by T.E Morris (Morus Glaslÿn)

[bardic name, Morus from Glaslÿn [a farm name = the blue lake]

(Papyr [papur] a ddarlledwÿd gerbron Cymdeithas Lenyddol y Tabernacl, King's Cross, Llundain, Mawrth 5ed, 1892)

(Paper read before the Tabernacle (Chapel) Literary Society, King's Cross, London, March 5th, 1892)

 

The article has the following five sections. At present we have only a couple of short extracts from sections 1 and 4

1 HANES CYFENWAU CYMREIG / = The History of Welsh Surnames

2 CYFENWAU CYMREIG YNG NGHYMRU / = Welsh Surnames in Wales

3 CYFENWAU CYMREIG YNG LLOEGR / = Welsh Surnames in England

4 CYFENWAU NORMANAIDD, &C., CYMRU / = Norman Surnames, etc: Wales

5 CYFENWAU BEIBLAIDD CYMRU / = Biblical Surnames in Wales

 

1 HANES CYFENWAU CYMREIG / The History of Welsh Surnames

Gofyna [gofynna] un o gymeriadau Shakespeare, "Beth sÿdd mewn enw?" ac er fod llawer o drafod ac ysgrifenu [ysgrifennu] wedi bod ar y pwnc er ei amser ef, credwn nad ydÿm hÿd yn hÿn wedi deall pwÿsigrwÿdd a phrioldeb enwau pan eu cysylltir â phersonau. Gallwn ddweÿd [ddweud] am Gyfenwau Cymreig, hynÿ [hynnÿ] ÿw, am enwau teuluoedd Cymru, eu bod yn hynod o ddyddorol [ddiddorol]: ac er mai ychydig mewn cydmariaeth [cymhariaeth] i rif y boblogaeth ÿw rhif ein cyfenwau, eto, y mae iddÿnt hanes a ddylasai fod yn adnabyddus i'r sawl sÿdd yn eu gwisgo: ac yn sicr i chwi, y mae eu hanes yn llawn mor ddyddorol [ddiddorol] ac addysgiadol a'r [â'r] eiddo cyfenwau unrhÿw wlad....

TRANSLATION: One of Shakespeare's characters asks: "What's in a name?", and although there has been a lot of discussion and a lot has been written about the matter since his time, I don not believe that as yet we have understood the importance and the apropriateness of names when they are applied to people. We could say about Welsh surnames, that is to say, the family names of Wales, that they are remarakably interesting, and though they are but few in relation to the amount of population, they have a history that should be known to those who carry them. And I can assure you their history is just as interesting and instructive as the surnames of any country...

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 Yr ydÿch yn gwÿbod am yr hanesÿn hwnw [hwnnw] am rÿw Sais yn teithio ar geffÿl dros un o fynyddoedd Cymru ar noson dywÿll. Wedi mÿn'd [mÿnd] ychydig yn mlaen [ymlaen] clywai lais rhÿwun yn llefain â'i holl egni am gynnorthwÿ [gynhorthwÿ]; a thybiai mai o waelod rhÿw bwll yn ymÿl y ffordd y codai y llais. Aeth hÿd yno gan floeddio rhÿwbeth yn Saesneg; atebwÿd ef gydag acen gwir Gymreigaidd, 'Help, master, help." "Help! what, who are you?" meddai y teithiwr. "Jenkin-ap-Griffith-ap-Robin-ap-William-ap-Rhÿs-ap-Evan," oedd yr atebiad. [Siencÿn ap Gruffudd ap Rhobÿn ap Wiliam ap Rhÿs ab Ifan]. O'i gyfieithu i'r Gymraeg, meddai y Sais, gan ar yr un prÿd sparduno [sbarduno] ei farch - "Y creaduriaid diog, pa reswm sÿdd i haner [hanner] dwsin ohonoch orfeddian yn y pwll yma! y ffyliaid gwirion, helped y naill godi'r llall!"

TRANSLATION: You know of the story of an Englishman who was travelling on horseback on a dark night over one of the Welsh mountains. After travelling for a while he heard the voice of someone yelling as loud as he could for help, and it seemed to him that the voice was coming from the bottom of a pit at the side of the road. He went there shouting something in English; he was answered in a heavy Welsh accent, 'Help, master, help!' 'Help! What, who are you?' asks the traveller. "Jenkin-ap-Griffith-ap-Robin-ap-William-ap-Rhÿs-ap-Evan," came the answer. [Siencÿn ap Gruffudd ap Rhobÿn ap Wiliam ap Rhÿs ab Ifan - Siencÿn/Jenkin son of Gruffudd/Griffith son of Rhobÿn/Robin son of Wiliam/William son of Rhÿs son of Ifan/Evan]. The Englishman said (translating his words into Welsh), as he spurred on his horse at the same time, 'You lazy oafs, why on earth are half a dozen of you lying around in the pit! You daft idiots, why don't you help one another up?'

 

4 CYFENWAU NORMANAIDD, &C., CYMRU / Norman Surnames, etc: Wales

Daeth cyfenwau Normanaidd gyntaf i Gymru gyda Robert Fitzhamon a'i ddeuddeg marchog, y rhai y cawn eu bod wedi ymsefydlu ym Mro Morganwg [Morgannwg], adeg marwolaeth William yr Ail, yn y flwÿddÿn 1100...

TRANSLATION: Norman surnames first came to Wales with Robert Fitzhamon and his twelve knights who we find settled in the Lowlands of Morgannwg ('Vale of Glamorgan') at the time of the death of William the Second, in the year 1100

Yr ydÿm yn credu mai aralleiriad ydÿw yr hen ffurf Gymreig Hu am yr enw cynarach [cynharach] Normanaidd Hugh, a geir yn y "Domesday Book" fel Hugo. Nid oes nemawr sail, os oes dim, dros y dywediad a geir yn y llÿfr, a elwir "The Norman Pope" (1874), mai enw Cymraeg neu Geltaidd ydÿw Hugh... Ni cheir yr enw o gwbl yn y Mabinogion; a Normaniaid oedd yr holl bersonau o'r enw yna a grebwÿllir ym Mrut y Tywysogion. Darllenwn yn y Brut am farwolaeth "hu vras, Iarll kaer llion," yn 1100; a chyfeirir yn y llÿfr at 'Hu dy la Sai', 'Hu dy Roc, a 'Hu dy Sai'. Cawn hefÿd y ffurf ddiweddar o Hugh, er engraifft [enghraifft]

'Huw de Andelei'...

Ymdengÿs fod Huw Huws, neu y Bardd Coch o Fon [Fôn], yr hwn a fu fÿw y ganrif ddiweddaf [ddiwethaf], yn sillebu ei enw fel hÿn.

TRANSLATION: We believe that the old Welsh form Hu is a variant of the earlier Norman name Hugh, which is found in the Domesday Book as Hugh [a book with the results of a survey of land carried out in 1086 by the commissioners of the Norman king William 1, twenty years after the Conquest of England]. There's little basis, if any at all, for the assertion in the book titled 'The Norman Pope' (1874) that Hugh is a Welsh or a Celtic name. The name is not to be found at all in the Mabinogion [collection of Welsh magic and supernatural tales based on old Celtic legends and mythologies]; and all the people who had the name who are mentioned in Brut y Tywysogion were Normans. ['The Chronicle of the Princes', a Welsh-language translation of a Latin text on six hundred years of Welsh history from the death of Cadwaladr Fendigaid in 682 to the death of Llywelÿn ap Gruffudd in 1282]. In the Chronicle we read of the death of "hu vras, Iarll kaer llion" = Hu Vras, Earl of Caerllion, in 1100; and there are references to 'Hu dy la Sai', 'Hu dy Roc, and 'Hu dy Sai'. We also find the late form Hugh, for example 'Huw de Andelei'. It seems that Huw Huws, or Bardd Coch o Fôn ['The red-haired poet of Môn', the poet's bardic name], who lived in the last century, spelt his name like this [H-U-W instead of H-U-G-H]]

Bu ychydig ysgrifenu [ysgrifennu] ar y cyfenw yma yn y Notes and Queries, flynyddau yn ôl: a dywedai Mr Gildersome-Dickenson (7fed gyfres, cyf. xi, tud. 334) fod Hughes yn gyfenw beth bynnag mor foreu [fore] â 1450-1; a thystiolaetha Mr. Higgins, o Maidenhead, fod y dull Cymreig o gyfenwi y mab yn ol [ôl] enw y tad mewn bri yn Swÿdd Amwÿthig yn foreu [fore] iawn; oherwÿdd gelwir mab un Hugh Higgons yn John Hughes yn y Visitation of Salop a ysgrifenwÿd yn 1623. Dywed un ysgrifenÿdd [ysgrifennÿdd] "na ddefnyddid Hughes fel cyfenw yn [yng] Nghymru cÿn 1550; a phur anaml y deuir ar draws yr enw bedÿdd Hugh cÿn yr adeg yma. Y prÿd hÿn cawn saith o deuluoedd o'r enw Hughes yn codi, un o dylwÿth Caradog Freichfras, dau o dylwÿth Elystan, un o dylwÿth Cowrÿd ap Cadfan, un o dylwÿth Owain Brogyntÿn, a dau o dylwÿth Tudor Trefor. Bu farw Hugh ap William, sylfaenÿdd teulu yr Hughesiaid o Gwerclas, yn 1600. Yr oedd Rhÿs Hughes - yr Hughes cyntaf o Faes y Pandÿ [Faesypandÿ], yn uchel sirÿdd yn y flwÿddÿn 1582:" Nid oes un amheuaeth nad oedd Hugh yn enw bedÿdd cyffredin yn ein gwlad yn yr unfed ganrif ar bymtheg; ac yn ol [ôl] pob tebÿg yr oedd yr enw yn un adnabyddus yn [yng] Nghymru yn ystod y tair neu y pedair canrif cÿn hynÿ [hynnÿ]. Yr oedd Hugh Lupus, yr hwn a grewÿd yn Iarll Caer, yn 1070, yn enw adnabyddus yn [yng] Ngwÿnedd; a bu iarll arall ar ei ol [ôl], sef Hugh Cyfeiliog (1153-1180) o'r un enw....

TRANSLATION: There was a little bit written in [the magazine] Notes and Queries many years ago; and Mr Gildersome-Dickenson (7th series, vol. xi, p. 334) that Hughes was a surname in any case that went back as early as 1450-1; and Mr. Higgins, of Maidenhead, reports that the Welsh practice of naming the son after the father was in use in Shropshire [an English county bordering mid-Wales, parts of which had a Welsh-speaking population in medieval times] very early on; because one the son of Hugh Higgons was called John Hughes in the Visitation of Salop written in 1623. One writer states that 'Hughes was not used as a surname in Wales before 1550; and one very rarely comes across the first name Hugh before this period. At this time we find the emergence of seven families with the surname Hughes, one from the family of Caradog Freichfras [Caradog Big Arm], two from the family of Elystan, one from the family of Cowrÿd ap Cadfan, one from the family of Owain Brogyntÿn, and two from the family of Tudor Trefor. Hugh ap William, the founder of the Hughes family of Gwerclas, died in 1600. Rhÿs Hughes - the first Hughes from Maesypandÿ, was High Sheriff in the year 1582:" There's no doubt that Hugh was a common first name in our land in the sixteenth century; and very likely the name was known in Wales in the three or four centuries before this. Hugh Lupus, who was made Earl of Chester in 1070, was a name known in Gwÿnedd [a kingdom in the north-west of Wales ; and an later earl had the same name - Hugh Cyfeiliog (1153-1180), Huw from the district of Cyfeiliog]...

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